tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33057643.post6349953859068890409..comments2024-03-26T04:24:11.094-05:00Comments on Strawberry-Rhubarb Theology: Forde: Sail into the Storm of Free GraceDane Ortlundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17583355241279798089noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33057643.post-66730144311513210982010-05-12T09:25:28.687-05:002010-05-12T09:25:28.687-05:00Hey man. Thanks for the comment and I hope you'...Hey man. Thanks for the comment and I hope you're well. I think he's saying that there is something risky, discombobulating, disorienting, about real grace, because real grace severs all the ropes of 'law' that make life and morality feel safe and controllable (Luther often uses 'law' to speak of what is intuitive and 'gospel' to speak of what is counterintuitive). To really say that yes, you are free to do anything at all and your status with God remains absolutely stable and secure since it's 100% unconditional, since Jesus did it all, undoes all our intuitive pre-understandings of how life works, how God works, how the universe works.<br /><br />I think it's wise of Forde to quote Jesus here, where Jesus says essentially the same thing. We think: God works to level the playing field, even the teams, play fairly. We think God is a big Robin Hood, taking from the rich to give to the poor. In the world of grace, though, all this is flipped inside out. Just before Jesus' statement is the parable of the sower--there it is again!--God doesn't take from the one who reaps 30, 60, 100x, to give to the seeds bearing nothing. Nope. Grace is grace. It's not apportioned. It's not leveled out. It's not 'fair'! It's free for the taking, as much as you want. Just take it. It's won for us. That's extremely threatening, de-stabilizing, undressing of us, dangerous, risky, and paradoxically, it almost feels safer to say no to grace and go on in our law-structured, intuitive, moral universe.<br /><br />And, I would say (and I think Forde too), real grace is our only safe haven, our only true security.Dane Ortlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17583355241279798089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33057643.post-72162653873225963752010-05-12T08:55:25.439-05:002010-05-12T08:55:25.439-05:00What leads to condemnation is works. So for Forde,...What leads to condemnation is works. So for Forde, the law of God puts the sinner to death. The Gospel of Christ raises one to new life. This new life is in Christ. We are free to love God and neighbour. Good Works flow freely from the redeemed sinner in Christ. Therefore, there is no place in Forde for "decisions for Christ" or "sinners prayers." The Word of God is done to us. There is where the Holy Spirit is present. The only solution to the problem of sin is Absolution. "You are forgiven in the name of Christ!" Repent and believe this. Forde and Confessional Lutheran theology is biblical and true to Sola Gratia, Sola fide, Sola Scriptura, Sola ChristusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33057643.post-56606511402277161942010-05-11T22:19:17.850-05:002010-05-11T22:19:17.850-05:00So the grace is free...but that freedom might lead...So the grace is free...but that freedom might lead you to condemnation if used the wrong way...Is that what he is saying? I'm honestly asking.Derek Lehrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04096472725664114839noreply@blogger.com